TIL DJ's can put on concerts? (random car dump)

"EL_ULY" (uly) 06/09/2016 at 10:38 • Filed to: get off my lawnopnik

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So.... apparently this has been 100% normal for a long time. A DJ goes on a stage at a venue, turns on their computer filled table and a shit ton flashing lights to an ever lasting bass drum beat, and thousands of kids jump up and down for hours.

Not being a total dinosaur, I remember going to what I know as being raves back in 02 ish. From what I remember, it was at a club or some dude’s house where the music was just playing non stop and people where sort of dancing but mostly just hangin out (really just girls were dancing and guys just stood there looking at them like morons).

This though is pretty much the exact same music but there is a actual person on stage controlling the music, or looking like they are controlling the music. Of course, music today is more about the eyes than the ears, so there are chingos of lights flashing and graphics to keep the kids entertained. By entertained, I mean them just bouncing around like !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! sticks with one arm in the air and the other Snapchatting themselves bouncing around.

Why does everyone have to wear !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! at night for?

Why is there so many buttons being pushed and hardly no change to the beat?

What is the art here and what am I not getting?

Video is of just a 100% random show somewhere on Youtube. The more popular music player people are at indoor venues with even more strobe lights and Micheal Bay sounds.

Oh well, here are rad cars from Google

S65 > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 10:44

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Dat C5 Doe.

jariten1781 > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 10:48

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Classical people didn’t get big band.
Big band people didn’t get crooners.
Crooner people didn’t get Rock and Roll.
Rock and Roll people didn’t get synth pop.
Synth Pop people didn’t get Grunge.
Grunge people didn’t get (whatever came after that...I stopped paying attention)
...
Profit?

I absolutely do not get the appeal of DJ concerting. I fully understand that I’ll probably never get any other new musical trends. I’m ok with that. Kids are weird, always have been always will be. At least they're not wearing JNCOs...means they're probably at least as smart as I was.

CalzoneGolem > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 10:52

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I can explain this all with one word ... drugs.

EL_ULY > jariten1781 06/09/2016 at 10:52

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lol JNCOs, man those were crazy

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > jariten1781 06/09/2016 at 11:01

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man fuck you JNCOs were the business

Oh. Nevermind. I was wrong.

Tripper > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:04

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I’ve been to one, “Flux Pavillion” in Austin after the 2013 F1GP. It was really fun but none in our bunch were even close to sober, and I don’t think anyone else there was either.

Ash78, voting early and often > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:05

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I had some JNCO "khakis" in college — 32" waist, 24" cuffs.

Ash78, voting early and often > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:08

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I have a younger coworker who traveled all over the country to go to DJ shows. He said it was mostly about the DJ coming up with new remixes of their studio stuff, plus seeing what cool visuals and effects they would have. But mostly it was about doing drugs and hanging out with friends in a semi-safe environment. There's real musicianship in the original recording, but most of it is not actually played live. But if you had told me that Dave Matthews would show up and lip sync his songs while adding a couple guitar licks here & there, I'd tell you to f*ck off.

ttyymmnn > jariten1781 06/09/2016 at 11:15

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I am a classically trained musician, and I grew up with a father who never let us listen to anything in the family car but classical music. Still, I spent much of my own time listening to rock (mostly 70s), and I still listen to a very eclectic mix of music today (I rarely listen to classical unless I’m playing it). So, I figured that my 13-year-old probably wouldn’t find something to listen to that I couldn’t stand or even understand. But then, he started listening to dub step. Dafuq?

I’m becoming more and more convinced that much of the popular music of today is meant to be heard but not listened to. I think modern DJing is in that mode. It sets a beat, a tone, a mood, but doesn’t necessarily provide you with something to really pay attention to.

EL_ULY > Ash78, voting early and often 06/09/2016 at 11:25

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LOL oh lawd that would be horrid. I guess I don’t get all the hubbub on the music side of it but more so understand the environment factor. Being in a crowd full of people into the same music jumping around and partying with all the loud noises and lights. Heck, at the last concert I went to (Megadeth) more than half the people were just sitting down or just standing in the pit instead of fucking thrashing around.

Ash78, voting early and often > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:28

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Most Megadeth fans are probably on their countdown to extinction about now (I will include myself here). But at least make a half-assed effort to mosh, for crying out loud. Just hop around in a circle and bump into people. Morale, people!

EL_ULY > ttyymmnn 06/09/2016 at 11:31

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the dollar menu of music?

Lol I consider it the Paranormal Activities of music. A real scary movie fucks with your head and truly makes you think where as those goofy movies get away with that BOOM, and WHAAM factor to get cheap scares.

Kid’s attention spands are at an all time low and the flashing lights and loud banging sounds can actually get their attention where to us it’s a sensory overloa.....oh my shit bathing titty sprinkle vomit Jesus..... this is what they thought of rock and roll back in the day huh?

EL_ULY > Tripper 06/09/2016 at 11:33

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just like what CalzoneGolem said lol

EL_ULY > CalzoneGolem 06/09/2016 at 11:34

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trippy is still cool I supposed :] That’s why the Cartels in Mexico are so dang busy. American supply and demand :]

EL_ULY > S65 06/09/2016 at 11:34

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yes exactly!

EL_ULY > Ash78, voting early and often 06/09/2016 at 11:35

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LOL that’s what I said!!!!! WTF people. Try at least, fuck!

functionoverfashion > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:40

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Confession time: I’m 35 and have been to such shows, not all that recently but still... I was certainly drunk, but I was for every other show I’ve been to from Hot Tuna to Green Day. I listen to a huge variety of music, and dubstep is on my radar too. Not all of it, but then, I don’t like “all” of any genre. I think of it as just an evolution of electronic music of the 80's, 90's, and 00's...

I don’t listen to a lot of dubstep, but I do enjoy certain aspects of it, in the right place and time, much like with beer. There’s a time for a double IPA, a time for a porter, and a time for a lager. And just because I like Heady Topper doesn’t mean I don’t like Coors Light.

Side note: watch Key & Peele’s bit on dubstep, it’s pretty funny.

Little Black Coupe Turned Silver > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 11:45

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Good shows involve new mixes of the songs on the album, and sometimes they pull in totally different songs. When the producer is up there actually mixing live, it’s pretty cool. That’s when you get guys like deadmau5 who are known for trolling during their shows. Me and a friend went to see Dillon Francis and Zedd a few months ago, mainly for Dillon even if he was the opener. His stuff was awesome, full of new stuff here and there. Zedd was crap, totally just the songs as they were, aka the hit play and jump around style. We left after like 20 minutes because it was boring. When it’s done right, you get stuff like this:

EL_ULY > Little Black Coupe Turned Silver 06/09/2016 at 12:25

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it’s sounds neat and all, but I don’t think there is any music that would cause me to jump up and down in excitement lol. Sepultura could walk into my job and start playing next to my desk, i’ll throw my horns up \m/ nut not much more lolz :]

EL_ULY > functionoverfashion 06/09/2016 at 12:28

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It seems like i’m the only one that doesn’t respond, “I like a little bit of everything” when asked, “what kind of music do you like?” LOL :]

Little Black Coupe Turned Silver > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 12:30

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Notice I just said we went... We were the old people (at 28 and 32...) standing in the back where it’s much less crazy. We’re from the Midwest, not one of those crazy coasts. :p

Now, when I throw the same music on while I'm cleaning the apartment, it's a different story. Because I'm alone and not in public.

EL_ULY > Little Black Coupe Turned Silver 06/09/2016 at 12:33

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I was telling Ash that at the last concert I went to, despite being in the pit at a damn Megadeth show, people were just standing around or up in the balcony sitting.

DynamicWeight > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 12:36

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I just turned 30 and I’m still going to these. The people I go with are all in there 20s... and more towards the beginning of them (I’m lucky I look young). The appeal of these shows for me is just how completely over whelming the experience is. I love that the music is so loud, and so much is happening in the music. I don’t know how to describe it other than “full sound”. There is no room for other sound, the music has taken all of the sound space. Then there is the dancing in a crowd of sweaty bodies all around you. The lights going off everywhere and crazy shit being shown on huge screens. Completely overwhelmed in every way.

Do I care if some DJ is “hitting play and jumping around” or “mixing live” or whatever. Honestly? Not really. All I care is that they make the experience utterly crazy. Mostly I think the better DJs do this by mixing live, that way they can sense and feed off the energy of the crowd. Frankly, if they are hitting a lot of buttons and you don’t notice a lot of change in the music, that’s great! The music should be a fire hose that is turned on and never turned off (well, sort of, ups and downs are important).

Also, I am as far from sober as is humanly possible during these experiences.

EL_ULY > DynamicWeight 06/09/2016 at 12:46

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So the general thing here is way more about the show and experience than the good music. Can you give me percentage?

DynamicWeight > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 13:08

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I am 100% at a show to have a good time. My guitar teacher is fond of the saying “If it sounds good, it is good”. EDM is good music because it sounds good. Admittedly, as with any genre of music, there are winners and losers. I really do like EDM, dubstep, house etc. I listen to it at work. I also listen to a bunch of other stuff, but it is good music.

Where the percentage matters is the skill of the artist or entertainer. That is probably more like 20/80 for skill vs having a good time. I don’t think you have to have incredible musical skill to make good music. Some of the best music is very simple. And I don’t care how much skill or effort it took if you manage to help me have a great time. For instance, we could take someone like Yngwie Malmsteen. He is an incredibly skilled guitarist, but honestly, most of the time I’m going to prefer a Green Day tune to a Malmsteen tune. Or, put another way, I had more fun at my worst rave than my best symphony.

EL_ULY > DynamicWeight 06/09/2016 at 13:14

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Ultimately, your theory is very genuine and what I was some what thinking give or take. Question though, does your commitment to the genre have ties to your personality? Like I told someone else here, Sepultura can come into my office right now and start jamming all badass next to my chair, but I still won’t be motivated to completely lose myself and jump around spiritually tied to the music. I’d maaaybe stand up and just put the old horns up with the occasional “whoo”. These shows seem to just make everyone extremely bonkers at ever hit of the drum as if they are in absolute and orgasmic nirvana lol.

JRapp: now as good as new again > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 13:47

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I used to spin vinyl back in the day. Electronic music - House and Trance. The laptop DJ’s of today are just human jukeboxes. I have no respect for that “skill”. Being good at spinning vinyl takes a whole lot of practice. I was crap. CDJ’s however provide a happy medium today that still takes a moderate amount of skill and practice. (note that a CDJ may actually use MP3s and not CDs).

The genre of music is just a matter of individual preference. I for one can’t understand most modern country music and think it all sounds the same - 4 chords on a guitar and whining about how their girl left with their truck. I’m sure most fans of the genre would disagree, but would think the same about electronic music. To each his own.

Anyways, back to the “art” aspect. Below is a fairly simple but effective demo of the work involved. Granted, he keeps grabbing the EQ buttons and not turning them, but that’s just showmanship. Really those are EQ and high/low cutoff buttons that can be used to better blend the highs from one track with the lows from another, or to do what EQs normally do. And I say fairly simple because he likely has all the tracks queued ready to go and isn’t really beat-matching and queueing them live. Nonetheless, I think this is an effective demo of the art involved.

DynamicWeight > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 13:59

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Well, we’re getting personal here but I’m game. It has honestly taken a really long time and a lot of work for me to get to this point in my life. A lot of letting go of the things that make me scared or mad or angry or any of those negative emotions. Opening myself to new experiences without judging what they should be beforehand. A lot of it is cliche or labeled “hippie” but it happens to work for me. The world is so full of joy and wonder, I just had to be open to experiencing it. I had to learn to stop judging others and stop judging myself. Stop sorting things into “good” and “bad” piles. Start letting myself feel things fully. To approach the world with love and understanding. To love my own feelings regardless of what I think about them. Open love dance experience dance dance dance love love love dance.

So yeah, it’s my personality, but had you met me when I was 15, you would have never thought I’d be the sweaty guy in a tank top surrounded by beautiful people jumping and dancing around like a maniac without a care in the world. You wouldn’t have thought that about that scrawny little kid hunched over his computer who could explain in detail exactly why he hated everything.

EL_ULY > JRapp: now as good as new again 06/09/2016 at 14:07

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Hmm that is very interesting aspect to the genre from actually spinning and, a Tosh said, professional iPod players . Helped me understand the creation a bit more as a musician myself. Thanks for sharing this

shop-teacher > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 14:11

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Mmmmm ... Square body Chevy!

Anyways, I’d rather slam my head in a sliding glass door, than attend one of those “concerts”

EL_ULY > DynamicWeight 06/09/2016 at 14:13

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This actually help answer a lot of questions sir and I highly appreciated. My wife is 19 and all about modern music and lifestyle. I.... well, I still to my thrash metal but even then, I don’t listen to much music, radio, social media, or TV. I just come to work, eat, poop, and sleep :] This DJ genre was a complete mystery until last night. I am starting to understand it from all angles now.

functionoverfashion > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 14:14

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Is this a little like how everyone thinks they are an above average driver? I mean, I think my musical tastes are wide, but I have my favorites. And I can’t stand some certain other types of music. R&B Slow Jamz, for example. Kill me now. And most “pop” country - mind you, there is plenty of good country music out there - but the average “I got muh beer and my truck and it’s four wheel drive... [twang twang twang] headin with mah gurl, gonna take a riiiide. In my pickup truuuuuck. [twang twang twang] Drankin beer and sangin songs, in mah pickup truuuuck” Might as well be a goddamn wood chipper.

EL_ULY > shop-teacher 06/09/2016 at 14:16

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I feel ya homie. I learned so much about it today from OPPO inputs. This is not my cup of tea for sure but my wife is starting to get more into it. Heck, I hardly ever listen to the music I enjoy lol.

My dad had a Custom Deluxe like that as a work truck when I was a kid. I still think it’s some indestructible powerhouse that can drive to Mars.

EL_ULY > functionoverfashion 06/09/2016 at 14:20

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Everyone seems to always answer “a little bit of everything” when asked, “what kind of music do you like?”

When it gets broken down (not even that much) it’s almost always a BS answer.

shop-teacher > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 14:37

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My wife is a bit older than me, so I don’t have any of those young wife conflicts ;)

My dad’s first truck was an electric blue ‘79 Custom Deluxe K10. He sold it when I was 6, I cried.

EL_ULY > shop-teacher 06/09/2016 at 14:45

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yeah dude those truck were legend! Superhero like with the old man at the wheel

DynamicWeight > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 15:01

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Twas nothing good sir. If you’re interested in this sort of thing, a good word to search for is PLUR (Peace Love Unity Respect). If you are curious and your wife is into it, go to a show! I rave with my girlfriend and it is SO MUCH FUN! No one will malign you for standing on the sidelines and watching, but feel free to hop on in and dance! Leave your judgement of yourself and others at home.

Also, in general, I highly recommend getting a hobby. For me, it was bicycling. When I discovered, in college, that bicycling was a serious adult activity and not just a way for children to visit their friends, it was the beginning of my transformation into adulthood. I can thank bicycling for getting me into pretty much every other hobby I have.

EL_ULY > DynamicWeight 06/09/2016 at 15:05

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Well, in general I share my personality with Hank Hill lol. I have plenty of hobbies, nothing common and one has grown into a big rad community . We will definitely have to go to one. They start popping up here around the time Pride is. Should be rather rad :]

Swayze Train GTi > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 16:25

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It’s the drugs.

Seriously it’s all just the drugs.

DynamicWeight > EL_ULY 06/09/2016 at 16:39

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Sounds like you’ve got the right attitude! Have a great time!

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > JRapp: now as good as new again 06/10/2016 at 10:50

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Thats pretty badass.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > EL_ULY 06/10/2016 at 10:51

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I’ve been to quite a few now. From DJ’s probably not really doing much up there except for hitting play, to Electronic groups playing real instruments or making the music live (Nero and ModeStep). Either way, always have a good time with friends and enjoy the experience.